Eight PM Open Post – June 24, 2012

Posted on June 24, 2012 by admin

What are you thinking about this evening?

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59 Responses to Eight PM Open Post – June 24, 2012

  1. ★FALCON★ says:
    June 24, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    I'm thinking praying that the signature Obama Administration Communist Regime item – ObamaCare – is struck down in a ten point oh earthshattering decision tomorrow morning.

    • JohnK144 says:
      June 24, 2012 at 8:11 pm

      Yeah, but it won't happen before Thursday. This decision will be the most monumental SCOTUS smack-down of the century. I don't expect it until the Justices are ready to blow out of town.

      • Indy1826 says:
        June 24, 2012 at 8:20 pm

        That is basically the general consensus. SCOTUS are actually playing this smart by leaving AZ immigration and the O-care to last and not letting it distract from other very important rulings.

      • Duuuuh says:
        June 24, 2012 at 8:22 pm

        It's certainly not going to be good for their health if they do smack it down. Obama/MSM inc. is going to have an absolute conniption ('hissy' for those of us in the southeast) fit.

        • JohnK144 says:
          June 24, 2012 at 8:35 pm

          "It's certainly not going to be good for their health if they do smack it down."

          If it wasn't gonna be a smackdown, they would have announced it early on.

          If it's not a "total" smackdown, they'll announce it tomorrow.

          Time will tell about their ultimate decision. But WE will tell them about OUR "final" decision. Nothing short of a total rejection will ever be tolerated.

        • Petroglyph says:
          June 24, 2012 at 9:01 pm

          Crybaby pissy pants, shltty shorts hissy fit.

          • NotKennedy says:
            June 24, 2012 at 9:21 pm

            A little change in the meter and your lyrics could have a rap song that goes along the line of:

            shimmy-shimmy-coco-pop…

            Cry Baby, Pissy Pants
            Panties in a Twist
            ShlttyShorts they be too tight
            Throw a hissy fit

            'Bama Care it cost too much
            Dey phck us up da ass
            Medi'care dun gone to bust
            They knew it wouldn't last

            Obama knew and Congress Too
            They don't give a phck
            Plenty money in dey pocket
            WhiteFokes out a luck

            Shimmy-Shimmy-W Knew
            So did Reagan Too
            As long as fokes keep puttin'up
            They keep gittin' Screwed

            La-da-da-dada

    • Stephen_Brady says:
      June 24, 2012 at 11:07 pm

      Amen. Like most, I'm not expecting it until Thursday, but I want it over with, and want it tomorrow.

  2. Indy1826 says:
    June 24, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    How appropriate that the tropical storm in the Gulf of Mexico that is completely unpredictable in which way it is going to go, has brought so much rain and and now destruction, via tornadoes, to Central Florida and has made life generally miserable around here be named Debby.

    Debbie Wasserman Schultz, this storms for you.

  3. Indy1826 says:
    June 24, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    I'm also glad to see that the assmonky troll, dontlooknow, has found a new moniker as AlinskkyDateRapedAGoat, or something like that, and has followed everybody over here.

    It feels like home knowing that the little Hitler Youth, masturbatory assmonkey has found a place with us.

    • HPD says:
      June 24, 2012 at 8:45 pm

      He sends me at least 3 "deleted " comments a week..little cs…
      Even uses "bad" words !

    • NotKennedy says:
      June 24, 2012 at 9:28 pm

      Huh? Alinsky Cronkite KMichaels is doing you guys on the side? I never get any of that! He finally trolled in this morning and I had a couple of minutes to play and then he was gone.

      We need a troll version of this site, just for the fun of it.

      And, you do have to give him credit for commitment, getting up early and consistency. John Hinckley couldn't hold a candle to Alinskky…. of the many names.

  4. HPD says:
    June 24, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    I'm thinking about the political strategy, both national and international versions, of "kick the can"…
    The game where no problem, no matter the severity, is EVER really addressed or resolved. ..
    Like here it's SS and Medicare and in the EU, it's PIIGS austerity…

    Every problem is swept under the rug for the next crew to clean up…The ultimate worldwide "mon-yana syndrome"…

  5. onecornpone says:
    June 24, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Is man a sovereign individual who owns his person, his mind, his life, his work, and its products — or is he the property of the tribe ( the state, the society, the collective) that may dispose of him in any way it pleases that may dictate his convictions, prescribe the course of his life, control his work and expropriate his products? Does man have the right to exist for his own sake — or is he born in a bondage, as an indentured servant who must keep buying his life by serving the tribe but can never acquire it free and clear?

    This is the first question to answer. The rest is consequences and practical implementation. The basic issue is only: Is man free?

    In mankind's history, capitalism is the only system that answers: Yes.

    Capitalism is a social system based on the recognition of individual rights, including property rights, in which all property is privately owned.

    The recognition of individual rights entails the banishment of physical force from human relationships: basically, rights can be violated only by means of force. In a capitalist society, no man or group may initiate the use of physical force against others. The only function of the government, in such a society, is the task of protecting man's rights, i.e., the task of protecting him from physical force; the government acts as the agent of man's right of self-defense, and may use force only in relation and only against those who initiate its use; thus the government is the means of placing the retaliatory use of force under objective control.

    It is the basic metaphysical face of man's nature — the connection between his survival and his use of reason — that capitalism recognizes and protects.

    In a capitalist society, all human relationships are voluntary. Men are free to cooperate or not, to deal with one another or not. as their own individual judgements, convictions, and interests dictate. They can deal with one another only in terms of and by means of reason, i.e., by means of discussion, persuasion, and contractual agreement, by voluntary choice to mutual benefit. The right to agree with others is not a problem in any society; it is the right to disagree that is crucial. It is the institution of private property that protects and implements the right to disagree — and thus keeps the road open to man's most valuable attribute (valuable personally, socially, and objectively): the creative mind.

    A. Rand, from "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal"

    Will we learn whether man has the right to forgo purchase of health insurance tomorrow? Are we free… or are we slaves of the state?

    • GaltFan says:
      June 24, 2012 at 10:05 pm

      Eh, we're still slaves. How many people do you "purchase" medical care for right now?
      ;-)

      • onecornpone says:
        June 24, 2012 at 10:28 pm

        NONE directly, although I suppose through my county and my portion of employee Fed taxes I do pay for some…
        8^)

  6. HPD says:
    June 24, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    We have a "lawless" government… They do what they want under the guise of health, security, or for our own good.

    If the Constitution were written today it would be 3000 pages, with a "Bill of Rights" telling "We the People", what they, (the government), is allowed to do, with so many codicils and restrictions ( on us), the entire thing would be meaningless…

    Just as the Marxists want it..

  7. Taxpayer1234 says:
    June 24, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    If Obamacare stands:

    "Consider the growth of socialized medicine throughout the world…and the recent strike of the doctors in Belgium. Consider the fact that in every instance the overwhelming majority of the doctors fought against socialization and that the moral cannibalism of the welfare-statists did not hesitate to force them into slavery at the point of a gun. The picture was particularly eloquent in Belgium, with thousands of doctors fleeing blindly, escaping from the country–with the allegedly 'humanitarian' government resorting to the crude, Nazi-like, militaristic measure of drafting the doctors into the army in order to force them back into practice."

    "Is Atlas Shrugging?" from Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal

    This was published in 1964. More recently, Canada requires med students to "serve" (work as indentured servants) in remote areas of the country for several years after receiving their MDs. Once their servitude is over, they bolt for the US.

  8. I_Me_Mine says:
    June 24, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    The U.S. bought Alaska from Russia in 1867 for $7.2 million.
    I say we buy Mexico.

    • NotKennedy says:
      June 24, 2012 at 9:57 pm

      Greater wisdom is seldom offered on places like this. YES. We absolutely should buy Mexico and make it what it could be in a democracy. Or, we could just sell the Mexicans California and they would just give us back California and move back to Spain, abandon Mexico and Elizabeth Warren to start her own little college industry in her own little corner of Ciudad-NotLately.

      Just imagine, Henry Waxman as Superintendant of Cactus(ii), Ahh, the possibilities.

      Happy summer Sunday evening.

      • I_Me_Mine says:
        June 24, 2012 at 10:23 pm

        NK,
        I'm serious. Just today at the grocery store there were 4 or 5 families with 2 -5 children, all speaking spanish. These people have no purpose, or reason to learn english and it pizzes me off to no end.
        I'm way past being sick and tired of it. Buy what we can and leave them Mexico City as a refuge.

    • onecornpone says:
      June 24, 2012 at 10:12 pm

      Nice thought… and worth consideration, however I submit that we have already bought the POS several times over. I say we just invade the northern states of MX and be done with it. Everyone to the south would flock there for the jobs, and soon enough the southern states would want to be annexed. They would love modern roads and all the modern conveniences we could offer, and in return we could harvest their natural resources. In about 30 years we could have that turd wurld hell-hole about half civilized.

      • I_Me_Mine says:
        June 24, 2012 at 10:49 pm

        I like the way you think, but name a politician that would have the brass cajones to invade?
        Buying makes more sense and wouldn't scare the folk that would love to join our 'union' as a possible 51st state somewhere down the road.

        • onecornpone says:
          June 24, 2012 at 11:15 pm

          Okay! Next question. From whom do we purchase the failed state of MX?
          It ain't like Spain still owns it.

          Perhaps we should just colonize, like the Mennonites do. They contract with the MX gubment for farmland on which to produce crops and build their own commune-like towns down there. They call them 'camps'. Camp #3, et.c. I have known some of these Mennonites who moved to TX, after growing up in Chihuahua MX, in one of these communes.

          • I_Me_Mine says:
            June 24, 2012 at 11:58 pm

            From whom do we purchase the failed state of MX?
            _______
            That's easy The people themselves.
            Just checked the latest census of Mexico. Around 115 million in May 2012.
            What did we spend on the stealfromus package that did not do one thing to improve the economy?
            Let's call it 1 trillion now with interest over the last 3 1/2 years.

            If there wasn't a better way to get every illegal OUT of OUR country, this is it :
            Do a leaflet drop (in spanish) over all of Mexico. Inform them that the U.S. will pay 1 million dollars to every citizen that signs over their rights to become a U.S. citizen. They then have to vote in say a referendum to move forward. If the referendum passes with more than 50%, then they have to sign a declaration of citizenship and take an oath of allegence to the United States.
            You figure out the details and the payments on a monthly basis. We can't give them I million per in one single check. One word, Tequila.

    • Billyb9 says:
      June 24, 2012 at 10:25 pm

      Then we could clean up the drug cartel, and O'Holder and company wouldn't have anyone to give guns to. Anyways, we tryed that by buying a goodly percentage of the west from Mexico- and now la Razza says we says we stole it. We could pave their streets with gold and then as always we'll get shat on. I say we work diligently on figuring out how to handle what we already have and let these turd world nations eat each other.

      • I_Me_Mine says:
        June 24, 2012 at 10:56 pm

        Did you ever have a neighbor that you just wanted them to move away in the worst way? Just give them an offer they could not refuse for their home. Renovate it and make a profit? Mexico is a real problem. They are THAT neighbor.

    • Taxpayer1234 says:
      June 24, 2012 at 10:44 pm

      Buy it? Hell, they've imported so much of our money that we should get the country for free!

      • I_Me_Mine says:
        June 24, 2012 at 11:10 pm

        Funny you say that.
        Oil is Mexico's number one source of revenue. Tourism used to be second followed by dollars imported by wire and western union transfers. Tourism became third about two years ago. Just another reason to buy it.

    • chopper says:
      June 24, 2012 at 11:56 pm

      and take canada too………..

      • I_Me_Mine says:
        June 25, 2012 at 12:10 am

        I have no interest in buying Canada today….; ))
        You're up late.
        Don't you have to get up early to post the what the heck happened today post?
        Speakin' of that, today is already tomorrow… g'nite y'all.

  9. chopper says:
    June 24, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    an intense lightening storm is coming across the lake, and the accompanying thunder has a couple dogs on edge!

    • Taxpayer1234 says:
      June 24, 2012 at 10:18 pm

      Man, I LOVE to watch storms over the lake! *homesick*

      BTW, how was Mama Chopper's BDay party?

      • chopper says:
        June 24, 2012 at 11:04 pm

        It was good, and fun was had by all. I kept telling my grandson (on the ride down) that we were going to visit "my mom & dad".

        He'd get a funny look on his face and say………."your mom & dad"???

        It was pretty comical. He's met my parents before and remembers them, but he seems to have a difficult time wrapping his head around the fact that they're my parents.

        • Taxpayer1234 says:
          June 24, 2012 at 11:41 pm

          That's funny. "How can Grandpa have parents?!?!" You leapt from the forehead of Zeus, doncha know.

          Similar comedy abounds among the herd of grandkids in our blended family.

    • Billyb9 says:
      June 24, 2012 at 11:02 pm

      We don't get to see much thunder or hear much lightening in these parts.

      I think the coolest (hence the scariest is well) was in northern Nevada, in the deserts south of Fernley off 50. No trees to strike, every bolt was hitting the ground. And the altittude gave you the impression that you were that much closer to the stars at night without sacrificing climate.

      If they would have paid anything up there for machinist, we would have been up there still. Harry Reid would have been that closer to losing his seat.

  10. Tomtom29 says:
    June 24, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Oofah! It's been a hard week. Lots of scary stuff. But we all soldier on.

    • Taxpayer1234 says:
      June 24, 2012 at 10:44 pm

      How's your grandbaby?

      • Tomtom29 says:
        June 28, 2012 at 9:08 am

        Thanks for asking. She suffered 2 strokes, but docs say they were in a part of the brain not yet formed. She's back home now and we're hoping for the best.

  11. di_da_is_alpha says:
    June 24, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    I'm thinkin' hooray for Clint Boyer. I just wish he didn't drive a Toyota.