This morning’s key headlines from GenerationalDynamics.com
- Hollande’s women troubles and Peugeot layoffs overshadow France’s Bastille Day
- Libor-fixing was well known in 2008
- China accuses U.S. of ‘diplomatic encirclement’ in Asia
Hollande’s women troubles and Peugeot layoffs overshadow France’s Bastille Day
French fighters and reconnaissance aircraft fly over Paris during the Bastille Day military parade in Paris on July 14 (AFP)
France’s president François Hollande marked July 14 Bastille Day celebrations on Saturday with a pledges to fight industrial layoffs and keep the two women in his life from fighting with each other. The Socialist candidate is refusing to accept an announcement by money-losing French car make Peugeot that it would lay off 8,000 workers in France, and he promised public spending to support French-made cars. Hollande is also asking his partner, Valérie Trierweiler, to end an open feud with his former partner, Ségolène Royal. The spat became public in June, when a tweet from Trierweiler supported Royal’s opponent in an election, which Royal then lost. Trierweiler stole François Hollande away from Royal, his previous partner of 30 years and the mother of his four children. Hollande’s oldest son has said he and his siblings want o further contact with Trierweiler. France 24 and Reuters
Libor-fixing was well known in 2008
I’ve checked my own files, and I have about two dozen stories on file from 2008 that talk about investigations of illegal fixing of the Libor rate. Apparently Timothy F. Geithner, currently the Treasury Secretary but then at the New York Fed, was aware that illegal Libor-fixing was going on. And yet, nothing was done, and the criminal activity was allowed to go on as usual.
This is just one more example of the massive change to our culture since the 1990s. In the 1980s, when the Boomers were in charge, if you committed a crime, then you went to jail. In the 2000s, with the Gen-Xers in charge, if you commit a crime, then regulators refuse to investigate and prosecute, and you’re allow to continue illegal activities. This is the major characteristic that distinguishes Generation-X from the Boomers — not that there are more crooks in Generation-X, but that Gen-Xers refuse to blame or prosecute other Gen-Xers, even for obvious, major crimes. Thus there have been no prosecutions of the banksters who caused the financial crisis.
As I explained in "The Legacy of World War I and the Holocaust", this is also the same behavior that led to the 1930s Holocaust. Germany’s Lost Generation (the generational predecessor of today’s Generation-X) hated the previous Missionary Generation (which was identified with the Jews) just as much as today’s Gen-Xers hate the previous Boomer Generation, resulting in world catastrophes in both cases. Bloomberg (2012) and Bloomberg (2008)
“Greece is collapsing, the Iranians are getting aggressive, and Rome is in disarray. Welcome back to 430 BC.” — British comic John Cleese
China accuses U.S. of ‘diplomatic encirclement’ in Asia
The ancient Chinese saying goes, “The tree craves calm but the wind keeps blowing.” The wind, in this case, is the United States, and the Obama administration’s “pivot,” announced last year, of its armed forces from Europe/Atlantic to Asia/Pacific. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton meddled in the South China Sea issue through her whirlwind tour of China’s neighbors — Afghanistan, Japan, Mongolia, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia — to promote “strategic pressure” on China and “diplomatic encirclement” by its neighbors. Though China always exercises restraint and insists on diplomatic solutions to the disputes, Clinton has encouraged China’s neighbors to keep challenging China.
Washington must understand that returning to Asia by way of militarily flexing its muscle, and diplomatically intervening in bilateral disputes is wrong and short-sighted. It is wrong because it is favoring confrontation instead of cooperation, which does not contribute to Asia’s development and also goes against U.S. long-term interests. Americans should do more to promote regional and win-win cooperation rather than mess up peace and development in the Asia-Pacific region. Xinhua
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Gen-Xers refuse to prosecute those caught committing crimes simply because their generation was the first that everyone got a trophy, merely for participating. We all knew this would eventually lead to a skewed value system, didn't we?
Now WE find there actually were losers in those games where no one kept score… It IS US, RIGHT NOW!!!
Find whomever forwarded that theory of no losers, EVER, and let's pitch them in the Gulag!
I'd rather it be 6 ft under.
Diplomatic encirclement of Asia?
Now that we have Asia surrounded, what are we going to do?
Uhmmm, CL… I think that is a "progressive encirclement"..? That would be those "diplomatic encirclers" that Billary is lining up before that China firing squad?
The greater reason for the lack of prosecutions and convictions now are the regulations written by people like Barney Frank (b. 1940 – Silent), Chris Dodd (b. 1944 – Boomer), John McCain (b. 1936 – Silent), and Russ Feingold (b. 1953 – Boomer).
The people doing the prosecuting can only use the laws available to them.
Since the Boomers and remaining Silents decided they didn't want any more of "their people" being prosecuted, they crocked the laws to immunize them from virtually everything.
It is not the fault of Gen X-ers who are now in law enforcement that they have not yet replaced enough of the corrupt Boomers, and they were clearly corrupt to have been subject to so much prosecution, and more corrupt to have changed the laws allowing such prosecution, so they can prosecute their fellow Gen X-ers trained in corruption by Boomer teachers and corporation heads to be properly prosecuted.
Clearly this all comes down to the corrupted nature of the entire Boomer generation and their Silent generation teachers.
They spent their time looting the country and setting up a system to continue looting the Gen X-ers and Millennials while immunizing themselves from prosecution, and corrupting just enough Gen X-ers to ensure their security.
They further advance a continued, vicious, generational hatred towards Gen X-ers, then complain when Gen X-ers dare to protest, and even fight back. To use the World War I and genocide analogy, the Germans were quite outraged when the Jews dared to launch the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, feeling completely put upon that their victims would object to the atrocities being inflicted upon them.
The poor Germans!
The poor Boomers!
What actually distinguishes Gen X from the Boomers is that Gen X recognizes the problems caused by the corruption of the Boomers, in particular the generational looting scheme they and their Lost mentors inflicted on the country, and are desperately trying to reverse the problem and lead the country forward, much like their fellow Prophet types Benjamin Franklin and Samuel Adams in the Liberty Generation led the country to independence and the Constitution we have now.
The Gen X-ers do not hate the Boomers as the Boomers hate Gen X-ers, they just hate what the Boomers did to the Constitutional freedoms we all enjoy.
Just to clarify — the Jews were from the Missionary Generation,
corresponding to the Boomers, while the ordinary Germans were from the
Lost Generation, corresponding to Generation-X.
** The Legacy of World War I and the Holocaust
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi-bin/D.PL?...
That doesn't help.
Not only does it raise the question of different so-called generational groups existing within a single country, completely disrupting any potential national effects of such groups, but it still fails due to the numerous genocides that do not meet the same circumstances and wealth narrative.
Take the Yamassee War and King Phillip's War for example. Were the Indians really blaming the colonists for financial shenanigans with wampum? Or were the colonists blaming the Indians for raising the price of furs too high?
What about the Turkish genocides against the Armenians and Assyrians? Were those groups economically exploiting the Ottoman rulers?
Or let's take one that you have featured prominently, the Circassian Genocide. Did the Czars perpetrate that because of chicanery among the nomadic bankers of the Caucusus?
The theory fails repeatedly to explain those, and many others.
More serious however is the clear disconnect regarding just where the economic threats are coming from.
The article, and this one, claims that Boomers wanted people prosecuted but Xers do not. But then it claims that people, wanted people punished after Enron. If that is in 2000, how are we to know the people clamoring for vengence were Xers? Given that the people who lost the most were Boomers who saw pension funds evaporate, wouldn't they be the ones demanding the heads of the execs?
Of course even that overlooks the simple fact that all the invective on an economic and generational basis is not being written by an Xer, but by a Boomer. Where exactly is the rabid hatred and dehumanization from an Xer that is claimed to exist? It seems that is only showing now from Millennials in the OWS movement, but it is distinctly missing from the Xers.
No, if there are any generations interested in such exclusionary and dehumanizing rhetoric as a prelude to democide, it is coming from the Boomers and their Millennial puppets, and not the Xers, and the entire theory is actually inverted.
Or it is simply invalid.
>> The theory fails repeatedly to explain those, and many others.
Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. We'd have to know a lot more about
the social attitudes and relationships of the time to make that
evaluation, and that information isn't usually available. However,
this hypothesis is particularly focused on civil wars and other
internal conflicts, not external invasions, so some of your examples
don't apply. For the hypothesis to make sense, the two groups
involved would have to share a common generational history, and share
a Nomad/Prophet generational archetype relationship, with a young,
rising Hero archetype generation. In those situations, history
appears to support that the hypothesis is justified.
As for whether Gen-Xers hate Boomers, just google the words
"Generation-X hates Boomers" and you'll get a lot of debate
on that issue. http://www.superseventies.com/worstgen.html
So you admit that you have nothing to actually support your hypothesis beyond a few cherry picked examples.
Well, that's a start, as is downgrading it from a theory to a mere hypothesis.
And yes, my examples do apply, as they involve genocide, and you presented your hypothesis as:
"A unified theory of genocides"
"Similarly, Generational Dynamics provides a theory that unifies our understanding of all genocides, sometimes in non-intuitive ways."
You did not qualify it as only civil wars and internal conflicts until now.
Are you going to edit that page to reflect this? Perhaps renaming the section: "A hypothesis regarding genocides in internal conflicts".
However, that still undermines your theory, as you claimed just above this that Germans were of one cohort and the Jews of another. That means it was to some degree an external conflict as opposed to an internal conflict. The same applies to Rwanda if you are assuming that different ethinic groups within the same existing nation can be at such radically different sociological categories despite clear intermarriage and cultural interchange.
As for your example, I think it is telling that you pick something from someone born in 1961, right on the cusp of the change from Xers to Boomers. Is Begala really an Xer, or a self-loathing Boomer? Clearly he is self-loathing in other areas, one more would not be shocking.
However, it remains that you presented the hypothesis without any such examples. It is not incumbent on me to do the research to prove your hypothesis, that is for you to do. I get to just look for counter-examples tht disprove it, starting with the very rhetoric you use to try and make your case.
The web page already identifies it as a "proposed generational
explanation." As usual, I regret that I wasted my time with you.
No it doesn't.
There is only one place the phrase "proposed generational explanation" appears. It is as follows:
"I extended this to a proposed generational explanation for the persecution of Jews throughout history."
That has nothing to do with genocide, and only addresses the persecution of one ethno-religious group.
On the other hand, the page is clearly titled:
"The Legacy of World War I and the Holocaust"
And follows with the section heading:
"A unified theory of genocides"
Which you even use twice.
You presented that not as a hypothesis, but as a theory.
You presented it as applying to all genocides, not merely internal conflicts.
You cherry picked examples to support it while deliberately ignoring examples that you have promoted as defining generational inspired genocide.
As usual, when confronted by simple challenges you resort first to parsing then to outright lying in an attempt to defend your shoddy "research" and junk science.
Oh, and I almost forgot:
Your hypothesis also especially fails in regard to the Holocaust, especially on the grounds of internal conflicts and civil wars.
You see, according to best estimates, the number of German and Austrian Jews killed was around 210,000. That is out of the 5.9 million Jews total, and does not include the 6 million Soviet civilians, 2 million Poles, 1.5 million Romani, 600,000 Slovenes and Serbs, 220,000 other religious, political, nd social groups, and handicapped, as well as the 2-3 million Soviet POWs of various ethnicities.
Did those 16+ million other outsiders just get caught up in an otherwise internal generational clash?
That seems . . . unlikely.