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He said the group traveled the country in trailers doing construction work and possessed a stockpile of weapons.
Stockpile of weapons,… heavily armed??? OMG, Automatically GUILTY!!! Don''cha think?
Yep, these ol boys and gals appear to be some real extremist, don't they. About 90% of those "charges" against them sound like a trumped up Barney Fife litany of fantasy non-crime crimes. So odd that the "criminals" listed seemed to have jobs where ever they lived. Must not have been very good thieves, huh?
That "paper terrorism" thingy is mysteriously like what wet-backs do. ain't it? Hummm? Good thing they had the wrong, or is it the right skin color… hum, I'm confused… Whewww, good thing I'm blond and don't have to figure that one out…
Oh well, using genuine documents such as IRS forms to intimidate, harass, and coerce public officials, law enforcement officers… sounds damn dangerous – paper terrorism eh? Yep, damn scary shyt! BTW, ignore the bomb-making Islamist jihadis. It's common knowledge that they're all peaceful don'cha know
Is this tale gonn'a ultimately be just another example of how owning guns can cause anyone to wind up on a list of "enemies" of law enforcement? We're likely to never know, since they'll probably be defended by some lame-assed, greenhorn public defender, who don't know his head from his rear end.
The sad thing is that a couple of good-ol-boy country deputies, who probably had more in common with the "terrorist" than their bosses in the county courthouse, were sent out to lose their lives in this drama.
I wonder how often "terroristic threats" are made in any bar in this nation on any given night? Heh, heh… What a country!
So shooting deputies is trumped up?
Molestation, burglary, and drugs are trumped up?
"Paper terrorism" is a poor choice of term, demonstrating the reporter is either seriously out of the loop or the AP is trying to hide something. The most commonly used term for that is "lawfare", and a simple check will show that it is a prime tactic of the various Muslim Brotherhood front groups in the U.S., as well as people like convicted domestic terrorist Brett Kimberlin. The people that use lawfare are the very same bomb-making jihadis, their "progressive" allies, and miscellaneous criminals trying to cover their tracks.
That's the problem when so-called "conservatives" go with knee-jerk defenses of anyone who owns more than one gun just because anyone who owns more than one gun must be the victim of government oppression or somesuch nonsense.
All it does is make the "progressive" propaganda look spot on.
Ruby Ridge MUCH, city slicker???
This happened in Louisiana. Think hard now…. What do you know about law enforcement in LA? Didn't it seem this report was totally based on law enforcement interviews? Seemed a bit biased to me…
Oh I dunn'o, maybe sort'a like the extremist gun owners were being convicted before the trial… If that's your bag, then have at it. I sure hope you never serve on a jury.
The cops are always pristine and above board, and WE THE PEOPLE should always take their word… So tell me BZ, how many times have you been stopped and interviewed by law enforcement in your home locale, for suspicious activity, while you were merely following the pursuit of your business interests? If it ever happens, I hope you're not well armed. It's happened to me once, recently, in a county whose entire population is probably no more than live in your apartment building. If it happens again, I'm going to jail.
Seems the two deputies must have been expendable cannon fodder to their command. Stop to wonder why these dangerous "extremists" weren't apprehended during the day, while at work, where they were probably not so near their stockpile of weapons not to mention not in such a close group, thus able to inflict this level of damage.
Two good-ol-ol boy deputies are dead. That is undeniable, however should their deaths be solely attributed to whomever pulled the trigger, or should their command share the blame for exposing them to undue, even foolish risk? Either way they won't be less dead. All dead deputies are not heroes, some are just dumbasses, who were surprisingly lucky to live as long as they did. Guys like that are all over the place, out here in the hinterlands. I've known many during my lifetime. The only reason they live to old age. They just didn't happen to run across any badasses during their career.
See BZ, I personally know upstanding law abiding patriotic Americans, who local law enforcement know not to mess with. In other words, they ride a W I D E circle to avoid messin' with 'em. As a rule they're not lawbreakers, but they don't abide intrusions on their rights as free American citizens.
IMO, it's all about the PR game, and the use of buzzwords that the average citizen is susceptible to. That's why even the smallest law enforcement entities now have "public information officers". WE THE PEOPLE are being brainwashed to submit. I don't drink that kool-aid. I will NOT comply!
Happy Trails!
Blah, blah, never mind facts, blah, blah, if they have guns they must be innocent, blah, blah, other crimes are just set ups, blah, blah, the government is evil, blah, blah.
I see the same drivel from hardcore "progressives" and their anarchist buddies every time their terrorism is shut down. Indeed that whole rant could have been written by Bill Ayers defending his Weatherman buddies, or from the Daily Kos defending the OWS bombers when they were caught. I suppose you deserve some credit for mastering the use of PR buzzwords and kool-aid the way they have, but that does not particularly impress me.
Just remember your defense of these people when the next OWS nutjob guns down a police officer trying to stop him shooting up a Tea Party rally, or a jihadi goes on a bombing spree because the government is "oppressing" Muslims.
Blah, blah, never mind facts, blah, blah…
Where are the facts? Did you read any facts, other than two deputies died?
My purpose was to offer a different interpretation of what I read in this article, not to defend cold blooded killers. Obviously you aren't able to tolerate other perspectives. So be it.
What was the terrorism these badasses were involved in? Local law enforcement called it paper terrorism, I believe. Is paper terrorism a reason to knock on doors at night? So does that mean that If I don't comply fully with all governmental paper pushers that I'm a terrorist, because I own more than a couple of guns?
Your paragraph on "progressives", anarchist, Bill Ayers, Weathermen, Daily Kos, OWS, only demonstrates you know abso-frikken-loutely nothing but what you read on the internet. A litany of shit thrown at the wall in hopes something will stick. You have potential kiddo, but you lack experience. Don't bother giving me credit, I don't need it.
IMO the whole game is about brainwashing the public that we are surrounded by evil doers, and only law enforcement can save us. I don't buy that. Seems you do.
For many reasons we have different perspectives. You are unable to grasp mine, and I've already been there/done that on yours.
Happy Trails!
There are quite a few facts other than two deputies died, but since you don't care about them you simply ignored them.
You may have had another purpose, but what you did was defend cold-blooded killers. Of course I hear the same excuse from "progressives" when they do that, and the same outrage when they are called on it.
As I said, the term "paper terrorism" is a poor one, and the most widely used term is "lawfare", which is acknowledged as a prime tactic of terrorist organizations. I'm sure when you are sued by some group practicing it you will whine that the government is not protecting you from it.
As for my paragraph on "progressives" and such, it is clear from the yapping of the dog that my stone struck true.
I grasp your perspective completely – you want to defend anarchist criminals because you short-sightedly think they represent essential freedoms. You are wrong, and are unable to deal with being told so.
As for you understanding me, you do not, relying on appeals to stereotypes to attempt to disparage me, and never addressing any issue I raise.
No BZ, I didn't defend cold-blooded killers. If you read my initial post carefully you would realize there was more than one disclaimer in there.
1. I said, "about 90%" of the charges against them seem to be trumped up. Comprendo?
2. The "paper terrorism" charge is a catch-all joke that could be leveled at a great number of American citizens, who don't file tax returns, or those have the audacity fight city hall with their own tactics. Will local law enforcement shoot it out with all of them too?
3. I asked, I did not state, Is this tale gonn'a ultimately be just another example of how owning guns can cause anyone to wind up on a list of "enemies" of law enforcement?
When did U.S. citizens become law enforcement's enemies BZ? Aren't law enforcement professionals tasked to protect and serve the public. If this group of bad actors were such terrible criminals as suspected by police over a multi-state area, why had none of them caught a single one of them in a crime serious enough to warrant incarceration?
At the beginning of the article the reporter says "some" of the seven people arrested … have been "linked" to violent anarchist on the FBI's domestic terrorism watch list. So what is the meaning of the word "linked"? Maybe they read a website? What?
Did you notice the disclaimer at the bottom of the article? After some local deputy-dawg used the word "linked" to the "sovereign citizens" movement as a basis for the assault on these American citizens, a state police spokesmouth said it was too early to verify links to the extremist groups associated with the sovereign citizens movement.
Can you comprehend that this distinction may have just blown the majority of the case for attempting to arrest these folks in the first place, off the face of the earth. Don't misunderstand, FBI will come up with something to justify this action, however my point that the assault was poorly planned, and that two men died for no reason other than law enforcement lack of judgement, stands.
1, You saying those charges seem trumped up is neither a valid refutation of them or reflective of the mentions of them.
2. The "paper terrorism" charge is not failing to file tax returns or fighting city hall with their own tactics. If you bothered to learn anything about lawfare you would realize how stupid that claim is.
3. Your asking is defending murderers. You have fun owning that.
Nothing in that says U.S. citizens are the enemies of law enforcement. That is a typical "progressive" tactic, attempting to change the focus of the events and the discussion regarding them.
As for an "assault" on American citizens, when those OWS members where arrested for plotting to blow up the bridge were arrested was that an "assault" on American citizens?
In this we have statements available that the deputies were ambushed. Clearly you feel that is always to be assumed as justified until conclusively proven otherwise. You further seem determined to deny any evidence to the contrary before any further information is available, and have already decided that the FBI is conspiring to present fraudulent evidence as a standard activity.
You bias in support of violent and criminal anarchists and against any law enforcement no matter what is clear.
This article is not about OWS. As is your usual MO you try and complicate the discussion with a flurry of unrelated info, to try and save your argument.
Where in the article was the info that the deputies were "ambushed"?
The FBI has classified "sovereign citizens" as people who believe they are free from all duties of a U.S. citizen, like paying taxes. The FBI considers the group a danger for making threats to judges and law enforcement, using fake currency and impersonating police officers.
Remember, none of the seven arrested have been proven to be members of the sovereign citizens group mentioned above, they are only suspected to possibly be adherents to that ideology, yet law enforcement used that unsubstantiated suspicion to move against them. I find it amazing that you feel it is a good thing to condemn these seven people based on what a "group" they haven't been proven to be members of, have done in the past.
I can only surmise that you are from a family of law enforcement professionals, who are jaded and see everyone in the public who isn't completely compliant, as their enemies. Why else would you leap to the conclusion that all seven of these people are guilty, before evidence is submitted to a court of law? The sovereign citizens group as described in the article are tax dodgers and counterfeiters, who use words and legal documents to intimidate judges and law enforcement. BFD!!!
If these specific folks in question had intimidated a judge, don't you think they would have been in jail?
As I asked in my original comment, how many terroristic threats do you think happen in bars every night in the USA? That is a BS charge, sort of like that damned Zero Tolerance policy so many schools have enacted.
Obviously you have led a mighty sheltered life BZ.
My comment was based on what was available in the article. It is clearly a PR push by law enforcement to cover their asses, whether the perps are quite as bad as they are attempting to paint them is the question.
As I mentioned, your predisposition to follow blindly is telling of your lack of experience. Pound away, keyboard kommando. I hope you never get a dose of reality that some of us have had, as relates to law enforcements general lack of care for upstanding citizens needs.
The rhetoric of the "sovereign citizens" movement is the same kind of violent anarchy as spouted by OWS. Comparing the two is perfectly legitimate.
There are other articles available. You said you wanted more information, but as I predicted you are unwilling to look for it or consider when it is provided. I am not responsible for your intellectual laziness.
No, these seven haven't been proven to be part of that movement. Of course when those bombers were captured people were more than willing to believe they were part of OWS before there was sufficient evidence to prove that. Clearly there is a double standard for such things.
Had you investigated the articles you would note that these people are not in jail for threatening law enforcement because they had fled arrest. Oops.
As for how many terrorist threats are made in bars every night, I have no idea. Do you routinely hang out in bars and threaten to blow people up if they do not accept your political views? If not doing that means leading a sheltered life, then I guess I have. Or maybe it means I'm not a violent anarchist, one of those.
Clearly what you are doing is engaging in a smear campaign against those law enforcement personnel, from at least three separate jurisdictions, all in support of your own violent anarchist views.
Come to Texas BZ. There is a fine line between the beliefs of anarchist and those of us who believe in individual liberty and freedom, especially when "rule of law" has proved unreliable. FYI, law enforcement is quite capable of confusing the two. Oops!
My comment was made based on the info in this specific article, which I found to be suspiciously filled with buzzwords and probable propaganda. I commented as a reader of this article, not as an expert on the topic of this specific event. If I had wanted to research the particular event for hours I would have waited to comment until I had done that research.
As usual you are the research expert, why don't you get a job as an AP researcher, rather than stalking and harassing those of us whose opinions you so often disagree? You could actually make money from your endeavors. Now there is a novel idea… ;-D
No, the line isn't that fine.
Some believe in liberty and freedom within the rule of law.
Others, like you, believe in anarchy and rule by might and thuggery.
You can have your anarchy, I will stick with the rule of law.
The line of interpretation of the word anarchy in the eyes of law enforcement can vary widely. It was a law enforcement officer who used the term (by the FBI definition) in this article, therefor I noted that in my impression. It can range from anyone who dare defy local law enforcement buffoons, to folks who value freedom on a scale you have obviously never experienced. Those of us who believe in and desire small government are suspect, as the ERC wonder and fear where the shrinking of gov will stop, once underway.
Of course you fear anarchy BZ. You live in a place where order is very necessary. I, on the other hand, live where about a third of the population are actually already living very near the anarchist dream. I have experienced a dose of reality you can't grasp. I deal with those who defy the system every day. Law enforcement gives me a blank stare, or worse, inhibits my own attempts to protect my property. We have learned to bypass or ignore them. It's the wild, wild west out here in the hinterlands kiddo… research that!
The Founders feared anarchy too, that's why we have a Constitution and rule of law.
Again, I will go with the rule of law over your rule of anarchy and thuggery any day.
The Founders are not here to enforce the Constitution, nor is anyone else for that matter. The President of the United States has just enacted a policy that will have us overrun with defiant law breakers.
IMO this article was written from a gun control advocacy standpoint, It was designed to give John Q the impression that we are surrounded by evil doers, that only law enforcement can protect us from.
My experience has been that law enforcement fails miserably at protecting my person, my property and my rights, How many locks do you have on that door of yours BZ? LOL, call me all the snarky names you wish, but I sleep fine with mine unlocked, and with the keys left in the ignitions of several of my vehicles. We'll see how long that lasts, now that the welcome mat has been rolled out.
The Federal government is defying immigration law (among others). Do you really believe we are still a nation following the U.S. Constitution?
Pardon me, but that seems outrageously delusional…
The Founders aren't here, so that justifies throwing over the rule of law for anarchy?
Outrageously delusional indeed!
Do you actually believe that we are a country following the U.S. Constitution?
The choices are Yes or No.
Pretend as you wish, it won't make it so.
Clearly you do not believe in the U.S. Constitution at all as you prefer anarchy.
You are dangerously close to turning into L4S BZ.
His obsession was for me to swear allegiance to the Republican Party.
Like I told you several replies upthread, you need to come to Texas. You obviously have no idea what freedom is.
The article is a propaganda POS. Sadly two decent men died, and they will probably become the latest poster children for gun control.
I wonder if the nucking futs POTUS will try and crush the 2nd amendment by decree. Will you care? What will you do? Pound on your keyboard twice as hard?
Time for mommy to tuck you in now darlin'.
Nitey nite, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.
I haven't asked you to swear allegiance to anything.
All I've noted is that by your own statements you prefer anarchy to the U.S. Constitution.
That is your choice.
I have no need to go anywhere to learn anything, particularly not from a dangerous individual like you.
As for L4S, your rabid, anarchist fanaticism seems rather identical to his rabid, dominionist fanaticism.
How many times can you type the words anarchy and anarchist BZ? You forgot the "thug" theme. Shouldn't you work that back in there somehow? Oh well, I guess you substituted dangerous and rabid for thug, didn't you?
LOL, Alinsky MUCH?
I'm dealing with the real world feller. What are you doing but sitting behind a keyboard researching, theorizing and bloviating. Tell me what you've done, tell me what you've seen, rather than what you've read about someone else doing and seeing.
All hat and no cattle!
Will you resort to spell check next?
Desperation is sadly tragic.
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I can type them as many times as needed to describe the anti-American thuggery (happy?) that you espouse.
Yes, you are Alinsky MUCH – too much.
As for dealing with the real world, it is obvious you have no idea what it is, as your tunnel vision is focused on your cornfields to the exclusion of anything else.
That is assuming you actually have any cornfields given how much time you spend bloviating (did you find that in your Word a Day calendar or something?) and otherwise blathering on about issues that are clearly beyond your ability to comprehend, never mind discuss on a useful level.
Tell me what you've done, tell me what you've seen – rather than what you've read about others doing and seeing. Do you have any experience in anything, other than your wiki world?
Your lack of experience outside your obviously very well insulated realm shows itself in your remarks repeatedly. There is just so much you don't know, having a discussion with you is impossible.
Many times I have walked away from your misinformed blather only because setting you straight would require a monumental effort, an effort I saw as requiring much more time than I was willing to waste.
My mission is not to supplement your woefully inadequate grasp of the real world. Keep on with the brain diarrhea though, I know you do have your fan to please.
The article was laced with talking points and propaganda. If media can't do better than this we should just wait for the court report at the time of trial. We gain nothing by reading pieces of drivel such as was presented here.
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One thing I did notice reading this article and the other BZ linked articles is that this article goes out of its way to use "buzzwords and probable propaganda". I think you are on to something when you eluded to to the slant in which this article was written. The only problem I see is the USA Today looks to be more guilty of pushing the false narrative than law enforcement. I'm actually shocked that they didn't try to link the shooters to the Tea Party.
Right on, ocp. This "news story" contains more red flags than a May Day parade. Let's take American citizens and turn them into the enemy. And while we're at it, we've got a few extra hollow points laying around in case they step too far out of line, courtesy of this thug administration.
"They also like to use what is dubbed "paper terrorism." It involves using frivolous lawsuits and fake documents and of using genuine documents such as IRS forms to intimidate, harass and coerce public officials, law enforcement officers and private citizens."
Saul Alinsky and Cloward-Pivens would be proud of this outfit.
I've got a real problem with this story, namely, it seems to be devoid of facts. Will we ever get the truth of how and WHY these law enforcement officers were killed? Credit the FBI, local law enforcement, the AP and USA today for exhausting every possible DHS-generated adjective to describe these evildoer-cop killers.
Beginning with 'violent anarchists' on the domestic terrorism watch lists, we move to 'sovereign citizens' who are 'armed and dangerous,' with records that include threatening judges and LEOs, passing fake currency and impersonating police officers. Outlaw gang, accused molester, notorious, with involvement in theft and drugs. What sins did we leave out? "Paper terrorism." Oh, yeah, and don't forget the ever popular ARSENAL of weaponry.
Reminds me of the trumped-up allegations of child molesting by Reno et al, to justify blowing the entire Branch Davidian compound in Waco and every beating heart in it, including little kids, to smithereens.
I realize two cops are dead but the story gave no information at all, none whatsoever about the cause of the gunfight or who started what. Cops are not above the law and government needs to understand their Constitutional limits when it comes to detaining, molesting or interfering with the rights of American citizens. They seem to have no problem hands off with illegals, never mind the perverts, druglords and terrorists who invade our open borders. Yet this story clearly acts as judge, jury and executioner, without trial, of this group.
No more free Wacos. No more Ruby Ridges.
You and Corn are spot on. I read this piece a few times trying to figure out how that gunfight got started. What did I miss? Nothing, it isn't in there. I suspect these people were a little 'out there', but I also suspect the cops weren't on their best and most rational behavior. Seems like quite an effort at spin to relieve some of the responsible parties of having to answer for themselves…
There are numerous facts:
1. One of the suspects is wanted in another state for making threats in a bar and to law enforcement and for flight to avoid arrest.
2. As a group, the suspects were under surveillance in another parish for a variety of crimes.
3. The suspects killed 2 deputies and wounded 2 others.
That's quite a few facts.
Just what facts are there about the deputies to suggest they were acting inappropriately?
Let's see . . .
1. They are deputies.
2. The suspects were carrying guns.
3. The suspects were arrested.
OMG! How could I not see it? Clearly those deputies went completely bugnut and started shooting at random. Why else would they shoot at people who own guns?
I missed your explanation of how the gun fight got started. Perhaps you could repeat it.
Down thread is a local account of the events of Aug 16. After reading it I only wonder if the AP writer of this article did any research at all. Quite a contrast IMO. Clearly the AP reporter cherry picked "facts" as to allow them to write a pro gun control piece. This sort of reporting only makes me wonder how many AP reports have any basis in fact. Seems perhaps the location and names were correct, and the rest is a pre ordained narrative. Evidently this is what passes for news reportage nowadays. Details of the event are not considered important, merely the liberal reporters opportunity to editorialize.
Sadly with more thorough info it does seem that the two deputies shot later in the day were sent into that park without enough concern for their safety. Perhaps the swat team was investigating a suicide…
Whenever I read an AP story, I figure it's an opinion piece, (with an agenda behind it), and a few facts throw in just to make it seem credible.
I'll remind everyone that this is :
By Cain Burdeau, Associated Press
Ask yourself, when was the LAST time you read an AP written story that was factual and honest, and beyond reproach.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/7-arrested-probe-...
Same story, different writer from AP, from CNS news.
http://www.ksat.com/news/4-men-3-women-arrested-i...
That has a few more details from the CNN staff.
It looks like one of the suspects shot a deputy directing traffic, then when the others went to question people they were ambushed.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/08/17/7-arres...
That's from UPI adding a bit more information about an ambush at the second site.
"Looks like"? Does a recitation of "facts" include the qualifier "looks like"?
When details are incomplete, yes it does.
You know, as in, "It looks like Holder knew all about Operation Fast and Furious from the beginning according to the information available so far."
"It looks like one of the suspects shot a deputy directing traffic, then when the others went to question people they were ambushed."
That is what happened Bronx. The officer on traffic details was shot while sitting in his car. (They position themselves near the parking lot entrance as a safety courtesy to alert traffic of entering/exiting parking lot activity). The report of the speeding vehicle matched the description of the vehicle leaving the first scene. The two officers were indeed ambushed.
Thanks for providing some of those links yesterday evening….
You're welcome.
Clearly you found better ones, but as you say, it looks like nobody cares about this on a national level, so all search results are dominated by the AP report.
Noticed that as well……reminds how helpful it is to expand search to the local level to get more details…..
Yeah, that's the one thing I've always had problems with in searches. I can get the general stuff, but I never seem to be able to figure out how to get the local stuff except by accident.
CNN?
UPI?
Do you have anything from MSNBC or HuffPO?
I'll try and get some 'credible' reporting tomorrow.
I went through about 10 pages of entries.
About 75% were by the second guy from AP that CNS, a site regularly featured here, uses.
About 20% were by the AP person in this article.
The last 5% were CNN, UPI, and HuffPo, though I didn't check to see if the HuffPo was the AP writer or an independent writer.
Clearly no one else has covered the case yet.
I'm sure we can all look forward to seeing different organizations cover this.
Taking your word for it (why doubt you?) that there is more to this than some of us seem to see, it seems that the major complaint on this thread is that the story as presented here is very poorly written, lacks detail and is full of gratuitous references that are frequently used to demonize politically incorrect ideas and the people who hold them, is a valid one…
Was that a run-on sentence? I'm really too disinterested to care right now…
If you are an anarchist, you are immediately an enemy of the American way of life and, by extension, interfering with my pursuit of life, liberty and happiness.
Here’s a local news link for anyone interested in the “earlier” details of the shooting which took place at approximately 5:30am on August 16th. http://www.fox8live.com/story/19292845/two-office...
There are several broadcast links above the article regarding the shooting from the earlier time period.
Essentially, the first deputy Boyington, was ambushed at a contractor parking lot for the Valero Refinery plant down the road. The deputy was able to call in the attack while a resident of the trailer court several minutes later reported a speeding car there. It was at that time, the speeding car matched the description of the vehicle involved in the first shooting. The parking lot and trailer court with relation to one another was less than 2 miles apart. Two deputies (Triche and Nielsen) took the call while another deputy was in route to the trailer location. While the two deputies were dealing with two subjects at the residence, it was at that time the shooter came from behind the trailer and shot both deputies to death while injuring one the 2 occupants of the trailer that were outside. The shooter was hit by returned fire from the 3rd officer that arrived on the scene who was also injured.
So far, the charges shown currently involve the initial shooting. Charges have not been filed as of yet for the deaths of the two deputies or the 3rd injured deputy.
Deputy Triche is being laid to rest today while Deputy Nielsen will be laid to rest Wednesday. Photos of the group arrested are found here: http://www.wwltv.com/home/PHOTOS-Suspects-in-shoo...
Have they found a reason or cause yet?
Right now, very little is coming out via media’s since there is serious investigation’s taking place. As you note, only one series of charges have been done regarding the initial shooting with the first deputy. So, expect more coming down the pike. There was something along the lines of the shooter being let go from the plant, attempted to gain access to his vehicle within the parking lot but refused entry which caught the attention of the deputy handling traffic control (parked alongside the road across from the lot). In short, the shooter ambushed the officer and sped off to their home nearby. All of the shootings took place within minutes.
I’d imagine, it’ll be some time before all comes out…..I’ve received some info but prefer not putting it out here for obvious reasons…..
I'm interested….
for obvious reasons…..
Many are…..
I was disappointed with this article simply due to the fact that the major media’s didn’t carry the story till later into the weekend. All this article did was pick it up from the Shreveport Times article regarding these being under surveillance for some time here in LA and other states. But, I’m sure, had civilians been killed, they’d still be talking about it this morning as if it just happened moments ago….but then again, this article is also found on the local media sites that covered the initial reporting from the beginning. Majority of the info about it from day one is already archived and through serious due-dilligence, could collect together all of the reports to give a better idea how this all took place. The why’s? Well, that remains to be seen…..
Sadly, two murdered deputies and two injured deputies aren’t front page news from a national point of view. I can’t imagine the impact of this from the surviving family’s point of view. Thank God, they have many friends and family support from the communities…..
Since this is mere miles away from our home-town, it’s been in the news each and every day, has affected both local and surrounding LE’s and residents alike. One thing for certain, the combined IQ of the perps probably wouldn’t equal the IQ of an average family pet.
Great work, please post updates if you can. I'm interested to know the motive.
Birds of a feather….
Indeed…..sad thing though…..they weren't "locals" to begin with but are likely now associated as locals, and the charges stemmed prior to all this related to activities away from here anyway.
Since they worked as "contractors", not all employing services provide background checks on contract employees.
It is clear they are not locals, and it is clear that is not going to help them.
From this report: http://www.wwltv.com/home/Sheriff-Suspects-in-dep...
"Joekel had active warrants in Kansas and Nebraska for drugs, resisting arrest and threatening a police officer. Court documents from Joekel’s Nebraska case, generated out of Gage County, show he is wanted in a marijuana distribution conspiracy."
"According to the website of the Gage County, Nebraska Sheriff’s Office, Joekel also was wanted there for making “terrorist threats.” Lt. Robert Davidson of DeSoto Parish said Joekel had ties to “an anti-government group.”"
If said anti-government group was a Muslim Brotherhood front, or part of OWS, everyone would be condemning them without a second thought.
But because they are "right-wing anarchists" – or something – it is clearly a multistate government conspiracy of authority abusing deputy dawgs against upstanding gun owners.
And of course if left-wing groups were defending them if they were members of a Muslim Brotherhood Front or OWS everyone would be condemning those left-wing groups for their hypocrisy.
I can promise you Bronx, many are ready to save future taxpayer monies about to be invested in these dregs…..
I wouldn't be surprised.
Despite the disdain of some, one of the skills I've developed is translating various official-speaks into plain English so as to get any useful information.
It seems rather clear that, as you said, the local law enforcement is focusing on doing a clean investigation so they can get these guys with no question of appeals on technicalities and what not. And it seems equally clear that they don't need to play any games as the suspects have left a major trail of supporting activity.
Yes, there is a serious focus on intelligent and efficient investigation.
We read and see in the media's enough these days about bad cops acting badly and these get quite a bit of air play. This one time here isn't such a case…..these officers were murdered doing their jobs with two injured in the process……
That's my main question too. What's the motive….
There may be no motive, as people like these are more reactive than proactive….
That's a good point. Looks like there's a fair amount of stupidity in that group too.
That's the one thing these people all have in common…..
and they always manage to find other people who are like-minded
Where I lived before moving to where I currently am, I had a neighbor who was also a deputy.
One day I had a spittin' match, while I and my dog were still out in the street, with the "lady" of the house at one residence (A monopod, about 35 years old and in a bikini, no less, who took a couple swipes at me with her crutch). Her dog ran out to chew on us and I was kicking the dog to keep it off me and mine.
I told my deputy neighbor about it and he told me the guy probably had outstanding warrants and that was why he didn't come out and raise hell. The deputy said that was a very common and predictable behavior in situations like that. When I told him which house it was, he verified that that was, indeed, the case.
Can't make this s**t up. Gotta admit, though, the monopod was kinda hot.
One night, I was having dinner with one of my cop associates, when, on his radio they reported a guy in a car with vanity license plates pulling over and robbing pedestrians. We deduced that he was on his way home and waited for him there….
Ha ha. You might be a loozuh if…
Their planning ahead doesn't get much further than "I want"……
Feral. The debasement of humanity, however the Left try to spin it, fails every time it's tried.
To the Left, intentions are more important than actual results…..
Going by what's available:
The suspects are serial low lifes with a hard on against authority.
One of them lost his job and an authority figure told him he couldn't get his car when he wanted to.
He lost it, shot that deputy, and fled.
When other deputies went to check things out, another one thought one of the outstanding warrants against him was about to be served so he lost it and started shooting.
Overall, bad attitude and a lack of respect for society.
Sprinkle in a fair amount of stupidity as well.
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